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mircea_popescuso danielpbarron can you make remembrance tinctures ?01:59
danielpbarroni need almost wine01:59
mircea_popescuaha. /me adding to the list.02:00
mircea_popescuanything else ?02:00
mircea_popescuseems i got 18. how much do you need ?02:00
mircea_popescudiana_coman hoiw are you for wwb ?02:01
danielpbarron!~calc 12*4102:01
jhvh1danielpbarron: 12*41 = 49202:01
danielpbarronthat many ^02:01
mircea_popescuoh.02:01
danielpbarronor maybe more if you wanna bundle them for even higher quality02:01
mircea_popescuso i expect like ... a coupla stacks good q wwb needed then02:02
mircea_popescumaybe mnore as you say02:02
danielpbarron!~calc 4*4102:02
jhvh1danielpbarron: 4*41 = 16402:02
danielpbarronalso mishaped ampoules ^02:03
danielpbarronand the third ingredient is chetty sticks! so the question is: fresh or used?02:03
mircea_popescuo brother.02:05
danielpbarroni have plenty of used ones02:05
mircea_popescuwell, i got some used, and i got some very high q ones02:05
mircea_popescui suppose i might as well auction those huh, ifg they now have utility.02:06
mircea_popescu!Qauction 3.5mn 24 13 CS d 89114 ea02:06
lobbesbotAUCTION # 91 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 13 CS d 89114 ea Opening: 3.5mn coppers Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (24 hours)02:06
danielpbarron!~calc 13*8911402:07
jhvh1danielpbarron: 13*89114 = 115848202:07
mircea_popescudanielpbarron how many ma do you need ?02:07
danielpbarron!Qbid 91 3.5mn02:07
lobbesbotAUCTION # 91: 13 CS d 89114 ea Heard: 3.5mn from danielpbarron Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (23 hours 59 mins)02:07
danielpbarronthe almost wine is the bigger issue as i can't make those myself02:08
danielpbarronbut the number is 164'02:08
danielpbarroni mean, i have 41 RT blueprints and they want 3 to 4 MA each02:08
mircea_popescuwell if you got the ma then all's good. though i got q 282 ones.02:08
danielpbarronmaybe more if i get you to bundle them02:08
mircea_popescui'm willing to bundle. want me to look at bp ?02:09
danielpbarronwe probably want to go as high quality as possible on these things02:09
mircea_popescui expect.02:09
danielpbarronsince the journeyman consids are quality 100002:09
mircea_popescuanyway, i can make wine, just need wwb got the rest.02:09
mircea_popescuof course, part of the problem here is that these toils actually are... lapidary.02:24
mircea_popescuso which one of you two is the lapidary expert ?02:25
mircea_popescuo wow, http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-official-april-auction-or-a-story-of-toils/ << danielpbarron didja buy the drudgeries / tinctures for like 200% just about a year ago ?02:30
danielpbarroni guess so02:37
danielpbarroni think i've got highest lapidary rank but third highest tinkering which seems to play a larger role02:37
danielpbarronor my character just sucks at all crafting02:37
danielpbarroni make 3 units per click on all craft lines02:38
mircea_popescuhm02:38
mircea_popescuso what's your drudgery recipe say ?02:38
mircea_popescumine is 6-8 tincture 371 to 719 handles02:39
danielpbarron4 to 5 tincture, 255 to 494 numina02:39
mircea_popescuo.O02:39
mircea_popescumy lapidary is not that low i guess ?02:40
danielpbarronyour tinkering is that high02:40
mircea_popescua tinkering huh.02:40
mircea_popescui do have ~150 lapidary so not exactly noob02:40
danielpbarroni have almost twice that02:41
mircea_popescubut less than half tink ?02:41
danielpbarronheh that wouldn't surprise me02:41
mircea_popescuanyway, show me the tincture recipe see what it sdays to me ?02:41
mircea_popescu10-12 sticks ampoules, 30-35 wine02:42
mircea_popescuoh, this is cooking item ?02:42
danielpbarronya02:42
danielpbarrondidn't you come up with all these recipes? or did you order someone else to do it so that it would be fun for you to discover?02:43
mircea_popescuso apparently we got this backwards, i should prolly click the tinctures you should prolly click my drudgeries02:43
mircea_popescudanielpbarron either i have split-brain and i can get myself to do things i don't know about, or else i emulate it!02:43
danielpbarrondon't you just have 1 of each drudgery?02:44
mircea_popescuyeah02:44
mircea_popescuoh you have like 10 don't you02:44
danielpbarron10 of each, minus the 1 of each you bought, and minus a few more i already clicked02:45
mircea_popescuthing is i expect i'd get 9 maybe 10 tinctures per click02:45
mircea_popescuhow much i paid for the 1s, do you even recall ?02:45
danielpbarronabout how much i paid02:45
mircea_popescu200% ? killer deals huh.02:45
danielpbarronyeah02:45
mircea_popescuthe thing is though, since tincture itself is gumbo, you should probably do all gumbos first02:46
mircea_popescuin the hope that clicking the j gumbo i get more tincutre bps02:46
danielpbarroni have 41 tincture blueprints and they make 3 each if i click, or what 8 if you click?02:47
danielpbarron!~calc 41*802:47
jhvh1danielpbarron: 41*8 = 32802:47
mircea_popescuhm though maybe i don't have this right. if your 41 make me say 360 tinctures, that's enough for you to click all 50 isnt it02:48
mircea_popescudanielpbarron nah, 9,, maybe 10 even02:48
danielpbarronso yeah it's enough02:48
mircea_popescuyeah like that it'd work.02:48
mircea_popescuthough if youi click the tinctures and i click the lapidary, it's 41 * 3 vs 8 * 5002:48
mircea_popescuo, you clicked a few already ? so how much do you get ? do they drop numina ?02:50
danielpbarronthat was before the blueprint changes02:50
danielpbarronhaven't done it in a long while02:50
mircea_popescuah02:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=3.5mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (23h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea02:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 3.5mn total bids ---02:50
danielpbarronso i got a miserable 1 per click02:50
danielpbarronbut drudgery also only used 1 per click02:50
mircea_popescuoh shit.02:50
danielpbarronand i think it made 2 numina per click02:51
mircea_popescui need like... 722 vapors for 1 bp ;/02:51
danielpbarroni've got a few of these uber numina already02:51
mircea_popescuhow the fuck am i getting the 3500 to do all 5 ?02:51
danielpbarron1002:51
mircea_popescuwell, 3500 vapors 3500 grimes02:51
danielpbarrondoesn't have to be all at once02:52
danielpbarronalso, doesn't have to be soon02:52
mircea_popescuso you got like 10 drudgeries, you're seriously going to make like 3 per click ? that's... i mean wtf, should i click 30 / 722 loadout ?02:52
danielpbarroni don't know that i'd get 3 per click on those02:53
mircea_popescuhm02:53
danielpbarronthe toils make me about 100 per click02:53
mircea_popescuo they do ?02:53
danielpbarronthey count differently from other things02:53
danielpbarroni get 3 per click on non-numina stuffs02:53
mircea_popescuhm02:54
mircea_popescuwell if you get 100 that'd be nice, at least i could do one click with peace of mind.02:54
danielpbarroni'm not saying i'd get 100 vapors per click. but i do get ~100 flags per click on a toil02:55
mircea_popescuthis high numina is rare as all fuck, in all my crafting i got a grand total of 3 of them02:55
mircea_popescuand also they're exp-ensive like fuck, 100k02:55
danielpbarronyou got some from crafting??02:55
mircea_popescuyea02:55
danielpbarroni've never seen that02:55
mircea_popescui think they've been in my storage for a year and a half.02:55
danielpbarronare they tinkering?02:55
danielpbarronaspirations02:55
mircea_popescuvapors02:55
mircea_popescuwhich are mcguyver i think02:56
danielpbarronyes02:56
danielpbarronaptly named, very valuable vapors02:56
mircea_popescuhttp://logs.minigame.bz/2016-04-10.log.html#t16:16:32 <<< check it out, a year almost to the day!02:56
lobbesbotLogged on 2016-04-10 16:16:32: <mircea_popescu> holy shit i looted "very valuable vapors"02:56
danielpbarronwhat quality vapors?02:57
danielpbarroni have 2 of them, quality 47202:57
mircea_popescu9902:58
danielpbarronand i have 1 petrified aspiration quality 676, the result of a glitch02:58
mircea_popescuoh ?02:59
danielpbarroni mentioned this in here when it happened, and it was fixed02:59
danielpbarronbut the drudgery blueprint had the wrong text03:00
danielpbarronturned the bundle into the product instantly and without using up the blueprint03:00
mircea_popescuah03:00
mircea_popescui recall now03:00
mircea_popescuhttp://logs.minigame.bz/2016-04-20.log.html#t19:37:1103:00
lobbesbotLogged on 2016-04-20 19:37:11: <danielpbarron> instead of a bundle, it turned directly into a single petrified aspiration03:00
danielpbarroni also have 6 priceless golden spectacles, that's the lapidary one03:00
mircea_popescuo hey03:00
mircea_popescuwhat's your j cons say to you ?03:01
mircea_popescugoing through year old log... that alikim dude. why the fuck did he have to go off the deep end ? he seemed promising.03:01
mircea_popescudude's head, dude's worst enemy.03:02
danielpbarron1 to 3 tomes and tokens, 5 to 7 BoD, 1 to 227 numina03:02
danielpbarronwas he the one that modified the client on windows?03:02
mircea_popescuwell, he was trying anyway.03:02
danielpbarronyeah it's a shame he left. that was good stuff he did03:03
mircea_popescuissuez.03:03
danielpbarron!~calc 227*10000003:04
jhvh1danielpbarron: 227*100000 = 2270000003:04
mircea_popescuyeah it occurs to me we're not able to click these anyway, won't fit in a week.03:04
danielpbarronlol these consids are gonna cost at least a whole BTC to click, each03:04
mircea_popescudanielpbarron mine'd cost 72 mn just in bv numina, if i could get it together. which i don't iomagine i couild, currently.03:05
danielpbarronyeah, just the base value. what's the market value?03:05
mircea_popescunfi.03:05
mircea_popescuit'd be great just about now if we had a working formula for how long it takes to craft03:06
danielpbarronbut yeah, won't fit in a week is right. i've been meaning to ask, can the server reset schedule switch to every 2 weeks?03:06
mircea_popescuwe could calculate what q bundle fits in a weekl03:06
mircea_popescudanielpbarron the idea is to not do it anymore at all, eventually.03:07
danielpbarronis there always going to be a week cut-off?03:07
danielpbarronoh03:07
mircea_popescunah.03:07
mircea_popescujust while the code still sucks.03:07
danielpbarronso i'd rather just hold these until then03:07
danielpbarronnot try to undercraft them03:07
mircea_popescuprolly. i don't see myself clicking a 1-2-3% loaded cons tbh. esp with high q cons. seems insane.03:07
danielpbarronthey say they make maculature.. i don't want more of that03:07
mircea_popescuya03:07
mircea_popescui find it very strange that you are so much closer to me in bouquinism than lapidary03:08
mircea_popescuis your bouq skill actually above your lap ?03:08
danielpbarronno03:09
mircea_popescuthen wtf.03:09
danielpbarronthat's my lowest skill in the crafting line03:09
danielpbarronit goes: tinkering, mcguyver, gumbo, lapidary, bouq03:09
mircea_popescu!~calc 719 / 49403:10
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 719 / 494 = 1.455465587044534303:10
mircea_popescu^ bough03:10
mircea_popescu!~calc 12 / 403:10
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 12 / 4 = 303:10
danielpbarronwhat is 494?03:10
mircea_popescuyou're like... twice as close in bouq as lapidary03:10
mircea_popescuthe max numina your bp uses03:10
danielpbarroni said 22703:11
mircea_popescudanielpbarron4 to 5 tincture, 255 to 494 numina03:11
danielpbarronthat's lapidary03:11
mircea_popescuircea_popescumine is 6-8 tincture 371 to 719 handles03:11
mircea_popescuah03:11
mircea_popescuso you're 1.4554 in lapidary03:11
mircea_popescuso how many vapors or w/e do the j cons want from you ?03:12
danielpbarron1 to 22703:13
mircea_popescu!~calc 722 / 22703:13
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 722 / 227 = 3.18061674008810603:13
mircea_popesculol check that out, reverse number.03:13
mircea_popescuso i'm actually better at bouq than lapidary by... 3 / 719 ie 0.4% ?03:13
mircea_popescui wonder if this is right03:14
danielpbarronit was 719 last you checked. it went up by 3 since then?03:14
mircea_popescuno, no. the cons is 722. the drudgery is 71903:14
mircea_popesculemme recheck03:14
mircea_popescuyeah, drudgery is 372 to 719. cons is 1 to 72203:15
danielpbarronit could have gone up. my toils always want a different number03:15
danielpbarronlike, after 10 minutes they want a new number03:15
mircea_popescui wonder why, not like i'm clicking anything this short.03:15
danielpbarronthey take around 5k, so they feel a very small effect03:16
mircea_popesculet's see my neophyte cons03:16
mircea_popescu6 to 7287003:16
danielpbarronlol03:16
danielpbarrondoes that even fit in a container?03:17
mircea_popescusure. 16 slots.03:17
mircea_popescustill same, 7287003:17
mircea_popescuima check over a few mins and see.03:17
mircea_popescudanielpbarron that's why i was telling diana_coman , i guzzle them like water. what, s 22 stacks, like 3 clicks ? pshew.03:17
danielpbarroni thought i used them fast at 5k a click03:18
mircea_popescuthe bitch is im stuck burning 6 tokens per click.03:18
danielpbarron!~calc 72870/999903:18
jhvh1danielpbarron: 72870/9999 = 7.28772877287728803:18
mircea_popescu72871!03:18
danielpbarronthe real bitch is the tomes03:18
mircea_popescuwow it does change.03:18
danielpbarronaha!03:19
danielpbarronand it went up!? wtf03:19
mircea_popescudanielpbarron im totally going to sell tomes, juust gotta get this cons out of the way and then make the gs. i got the snakeskin and all.03:19
mircea_popescumaking some real nice q350 gs, too. should be good tomes.03:19
danielpbarron8 slots the numina, 2 slots the token and ink, and .. the tomes? how many slots is that!03:20
mircea_popescu603:20
danielpbarron!~calc 8 + 2 + 603:20
jhvh1danielpbarron: 8 + 2 + 6 = 1603:20
mircea_popescubut afaik new tomes stack03:20
danielpbarronoh03:20
danielpbarroni have a running pile of used toolkits that's over 20 now03:20
mircea_popescuburned off the old tomes in app clicks03:21
danielpbarronwait is it that the older toolkits will just never stack?03:21
mircea_popescunah03:21
mircea_popescustill 7287103:22
mircea_popescuit doesn't change very fast.03:22
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danielpbarronfast enough that it'll be different by the time the craft finishes03:23
mircea_popescutru.03:23
danielpbarronthis is how i got into pre-bundling03:23
mircea_popescutbh i never yet chained cons clicks.03:23
mircea_popescuthey take ~week03:23
mircea_popescuim not even sure the current one will fit till wed.03:24
danielpbarrona toil takes me 3 to 4 hours03:24
mircea_popescuah yeah.03:24
mircea_popescugs takes me like ... 803:24
danielpbarronand they used to rank me up all the way but now they get most of the way, and i have to click something smaller inbetween03:24
mircea_popescua there is that03:25
mircea_popescu7287303:31
mircea_popescuha-HA!03:31
danielpbarronfor me it's usually less, not more03:38
mircea_popescuhm.03:39
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=3.5mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (22h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea03:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 3.5mn total bids ---03:50
mircea_popescu72878!04:08
mircea_popescuhttp://trilema.com/2016/eulora-hall-of-fame/ << in other lulz. "lets see how many digits we can add to the total figure before June 2017 rolls around!" ? heh!04:20
mircea_popescui suppose i should do one of these this may huh.04:21
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=3.5mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (21h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea04:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 3.5mn total bids ---04:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=3.5mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (20h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea05:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 3.5mn total bids ---05:50
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diana_comandanielpbarron, have you got lapidary above 400?06:26
diana_comanI'm at almost 400 on lapidary and making 7 items at a time fwif06:26
diana_comanI doubt I don't have highest lappy06:26
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diana_coman!Qauction 12mn 24 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q06:36
lobbesbotAUCTION # 92 STARTED by diana_coman: 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q Opening: 12mn coppers Ending: 2017-05-06 06:36:44 UTC (24 hours)06:36
diana_comannot as if anyone actually sold any poc, but hey ho06:37
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=3.5mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (19h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea06:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (23h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q06:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 3.5mn total bids ---06:50
diana_coman!Qbid 91 4mn06:59
lobbesbotAUCTION # 91: 13 CS d 89114 ea Heard: 4mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (19 hours 7 mins)06:59
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (18h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea07:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (22h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q07:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---07:50
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diana_comanhello Namworld08:22
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (17h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea08:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (21h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q08:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---08:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (16h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea09:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (20h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q09:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---09:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (15h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea10:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (19h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q10:50
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lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (14h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea11:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (18h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q11:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---11:50
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mircea_popescuaaaand of course i got disconnected.11:57
diana_comananticongrats?11:57
mircea_popescuthis cons ain't happening, end of story.11:57
diana_comanin other...interesting mining news: I got Fox to actually build an ord (eps) at her maximum so it was 474k input bv bundle (+ bp another 2.2k) and she got out of it about 137k bv eps at 297q12:06
diana_comanit wouldn't even be that bad if only one would actually have all sorts of resources high q to make those bundles without trouble12:07
mircea_popescu!~calc 137 / 47412:08
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 137 / 474 = 0.2890295358649788712:08
mircea_popescubetter than 1/4 at least o.O12:08
diana_comanwell, it was ONE ord; did not even rank lj up for that matter12:13
diana_comanmircea_popescu, as I was saying earlier, I am quite sure I still have highest lapidary - do you want me to look at some drudgery bp or something?12:13
mircea_popescusure. got one ?12:14
diana_comanoh, I thought you had some of those; then danielpbarron I suppose12:15
mircea_popescui do yes, lemme drop one12:15
mircea_popescusee it ?12:15
diana_coman1 sec, need to come to town, lol12:15
mircea_popescukk. tube next to me here12:16
mircea_popesculol the little jumps.12:16
mircea_popescufucking cute.12:16
diana_coman450-87012:16
diana_coman7-9 tinctures12:16
mircea_popescuwhoa you're aherad of me!12:16
diana_comanI'm telling you: foxy has a thing for lapidary12:17
mircea_popescunice going12:17
mircea_popescuis this the first time in the history of eulora someone was ahead of me in a crafting profession ?12:17
diana_comanyou might want to check out those ma on auction too, lol12:17
diana_comaneh common12:17
mircea_popescuwat!12:17
diana_comanfox WAS ahead of you in crafting to start with :P12:17
mircea_popescuwell that doesn't count :D12:17
diana_comanthen you powered through it etc but still :p12:17
diana_comanno, it dukes12:17
mircea_popesculol12:18
diana_comananyways: I can make bundles and/or click, let me know12:18
mircea_popescuonly confirms my "i'm not clicking lapidary" policy.12:19
* mircea_popescu remembers the old days when crafting actually meant sitting there and moving things into the box by hand and it auto-finished.12:19
mircea_popescucould do 1bn a day if you wanted to.12:20
mircea_popescu!~calc 870 / 71912:21
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 870 / 719 = 1.210013908205841412:21
mircea_popescu>20%.12:21
mircea_popescuoh in other news... 72945.12:21
mircea_popescu72870 -> 72945 in about 9 hours.12:22
mircea_popescuhttp://logs.minigame.bz/2015-06-08.log.html#t16:24:56 << oh remember back when punkman destroyed a magic bag digging in the dirt with it ?12:24
lobbesbotLogged on 2015-06-08 16:24:56: <mircea_popescu> tis gone.12:24
diana_comanahahah, didn't remember who it was12:26
mircea_popescuthese logs are gold.12:26
diana_coman2 years ago o.O12:27
mircea_popescu!~calc 1500 * 0.00001337 * 365 * 212:27
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 1500 * 0.00001337 * 365 * 2 = 14.6401512:27
mircea_popescuwill be 14 bux 64 cents in july.12:27
diana_comanmircea_popescu, how much grass do you need to keep you going for a night or whatever a run is for you?12:28
mircea_popescudepends on q. what q 50 ?12:28
diana_comanto start with it would seem it has to be...18; I kind of need to build it up from here12:29
mircea_popescui'd guess about 2 a second, 7k an hour sorta thing.12:29
diana_comanso like 8 stacks?12:29
diana_comanor 10, lol12:29
mircea_popescui'd prolly go for 5 even. except not q 18 ffs, i'll ruin my bps then what do we do ?12:29
diana_comanugh, I have to start from somewhere basically12:30
mircea_popescuwhat, starting AGAIN ? i sold you a buncha piles of cft, what start ?12:30
diana_comanand I sold you stuff, lol; not all of it grass,remember?12:30
diana_comanplus that grass q29012:31
diana_comanwhere do you think that came from?12:31
diana_comanI can use that and the resulting cft,sure12:31
mircea_popescuyes, but that's irrespective. we can't go starting every third week we'll choke.12:31
mircea_popescudid i buy a bunch of high q grass or did oyu just show it to me ?12:31
diana_comanmyeah12:31
diana_comanthat's nowhere near one stack even, lol12:31
mircea_popescuwhat cft are you using ?12:31
mircea_popescuto get the 18 i mean12:32
diana_comananyways, fine; if you say q50 is min then I'll get back to you when it gets there basically12:32
mircea_popescu50 is ideal, i think, yeah.12:32
diana_comank12:32
mircea_popescuare you out of grass ord bundles ?12:32
diana_comanomfg12:33
diana_comanord will get me some q312:33
diana_coman!!!12:33
mircea_popescuon a noob ?12:33
diana_comanyeah, on a noob12:33
mircea_popescuwow.12:33
diana_comanat most some q10, clearly NOT 50 nowhere near12:33
mircea_popescuah. wow! check this out :12:33
mircea_popescuthere's noob-noob, right ? he has no skill, gets q3 from foxy ord + electron bundle12:34
mircea_popescubut there's also... a different kind of noob. the guy who has SOME skill, but nevertheless STILL can use 1 lbn for tiny.12:34
mircea_popescunow this guy, i have nfi what skill level, but worth checking, MIGHT get better q from ord.12:34
diana_comannoob-noob can make a pretty penny even by playing the difference in markup on various stuff, yes12:34
mircea_popescubecause so to speak the bundle q isn't yet halved even as his skill helps him some.12:35
diana_comanthere is a lot of play there because one can adjust as needed from enum q as well as from bundle q12:35
mircea_popescuadjust what ?12:35
diana_comanso for instance he can build up his gathering but not his building - he'll get better enums so increase his q anyway12:35
mircea_popescuah.12:35
diana_comanwhile still able to use either Foxy's bundles for max overcraft12:35
diana_comanor otherwise 1 item of lowest q for undercraft or whatevers12:36
mircea_popescui'd expect you just give him ords you stick-found on foxy12:36
diana_comanthat doesn't work the way you expect it , lol12:36
mircea_popescuo wait wait. what q does noob get from smalls with foxy bundles ? would you like me to make you some small bundles ?12:36
diana_comanords give LOW Q12:36
diana_comanthat's what he does now: smalls with foxy bundles12:36
mircea_popescudiana_coman but have you ever tried with the above described sort of not noob ?12:36
diana_comanwell, the sort of not-noob I have so far,yes; he's not there12:37
mircea_popescuwhat's his tiny enum say ? 1-2 or such ?12:37
diana_comanhe has the skills and some levels up but he still gets lousy q on ords12:37
mircea_popescunot 3 though ?12:37
diana_comanbasically ords require ENOUGH input to give you any reasonable q output12:37
mircea_popescuhm12:37
diana_comanhis small still says 1, lol12:38
diana_comanmaybe just not yet there,dunno12:38
mircea_popescuyeah should prolly say 1-212:38
diana_comanbut as I said: he already had to move onto the rarer one-res only spots because he was getting all sorts12:38
mircea_popescui think that's what you want to see : what q of ord grass does apprentice noob get with electron bundle when his smalls are 1-2 cft.12:39
diana_comanI still think that's rather lousy but anyway12:39
mircea_popescuanyway mind showing me a small enum in trade ?12:39
mircea_popescu23 to 83!12:40
mircea_popescuwhat's it say to you ?12:40
diana_comannot bad actually12:40
diana_comanah, you have sortage omg12:40
diana_coman22 to 77, lol12:40
mircea_popescuahahahaha!12:40
mircea_popescushow me some non-basics ones if you have ?12:40
mircea_popescu4 to 17 the wwb12:41
mircea_popescuouch holy shit12:41
diana_comandon't have mining12:41
mircea_popescu13 to 46 the lumberjack12:41
diana_comaneh, 8 to 29 on wwb12:41
mircea_popescuomg can you believe the difference ?12:41
diana_comanI CAN because I've been banging my head with mining for ages, lol12:41
diana_comanbut this is actually kind of sad12:41
diana_comanso fox is actually at best sort of average if not sucking entirely at mining in fact12:42
mircea_popescuso you're within 10% at basics, almost 2x on grocieries.12:42
diana_comanwhile good at lapidary12:42
diana_comanstill.... what does she actually do? mining!12:42
mircea_popescuwell, basics you're about as good as me, in theory.12:42
diana_comanyou have way greater sortage and that makes it12:42
mircea_popescui'll make you small bundles if you want the extra kick.12:43
diana_comanand for the other thing: despite all this mining, fox STILL HAS tinkering higher than exploring12:43
diana_comanthat's SO annoying12:43
diana_comanlol12:43
mircea_popescuwell, do you sitll tinker ?12:43
diana_comannot much, no12:43
mircea_popescuyeah but the thing with crafting is it's very easy to pile up the exp.12:43
diana_comanit's just that tinkering is somehow more developed meaning easier atm to churn a lot of value12:43
mircea_popescui mean, 100 cs sticks arew a fucking fortune, miner is happy for a week with them12:44
diana_comanexploring not so much: at most 20k one stick/hour12:44
mircea_popescucradfting, 2mn in bundles is like, yawn, another hour.12:44
diana_comankind of higher limit, no wonder12:44
mircea_popescuyeah.12:44
diana_comanso exactly12:44
mircea_popescucuz with mining you gotta think wtf am i doing12:44
mircea_popescucrafting yo ujust sit there.12:44
diana_comaneh, not much thinking while cs digs12:44
mircea_popescui don't go from place to place to mine.12:45
mircea_popescuto craft i mean.12:45
diana_comanah, that12:45
diana_comanthe only way to pump some value in there is by making those ords at full-fox oc12:45
diana_comanbut that means first making a HUGE amount of grass at least moderate q12:46
diana_comanbefore even thinking of anything else12:46
mircea_popescunah, the right way would be to find a bunch of remakrs.12:46
diana_comaneh now12:47
diana_coman"the right way would be to find a few amples, why stop at remarks"12:47
diana_comanplus NO12:47
diana_comanremarks will give you even lower q12:47
diana_comanso...shit12:47
mircea_popescui don't think you can dig up an ample in aweek12:47
diana_comanthink about it: ords give low q already and now you want remarks?12:47
mircea_popescudiana_coman but the q isn't important in levelling is it ?12:47
diana_comandiana_coman> but that means first making a HUGE amount of grass at least moderate q12:47
diana_comanthat was for supporting everything12:47
mircea_popescuthere is that.12:47
diana_comanand q isn't important in levelling but bv is and as I was saying earlier I pumped almost 500k into an ord - not as if one can't pump it higher with right ingredients12:48
mircea_popescuyeah but if you get high q stuff you wanna go make a hole in the ground and bury it there ?12:48
mircea_popescuseems you'd rather want to use high q where you have leverage not where you're dampened.12:49
diana_comanbuilding claims is now burying it there?12:49
mircea_popescuif a pile of q 200 stuff gets you q50 grass, you're not doing well.12:49
mircea_popescuwell what is it ? :D12:49
diana_comanlol12:49
diana_comanbut no, not for grass; the high q stuff is for ords of rares which are anyway iffier as it is12:50
diana_comanmaybe by the time fox gets there she'll be able to make higher q bundles from lower q ingredients anyway12:50
diana_comanthere is that too12:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (13h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea12:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (17h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q12:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---12:50
diana_comanyum yum high q cs12:50
mircea_popescu!~calc 13451 * 2.64 * 9012:52
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 13451 * 2.64 * 90 = 3195957.612:52
mircea_popescuyou know i got > 300 ma and no bod recipes ?12:52
diana_comanand what, am I universal provider here?12:53
diana_comanI thought you had all the cons PLUS the way of making more cons12:53
mircea_popescui have no way to click any cons.12:54
diana_coman....12:54
mircea_popescubeen trying for 3 weeks now, wasted about half my time, got nada.12:54
diana_comanso dunno, sell those cons for someone else to click then or what?12:54
mircea_popescuhow are they going to make it fit in a week ?12:54
diana_comanI mean: fine, I can sell some bod bps ALSO; then what? how am I going to make more?12:54
mircea_popescuhey, this cons i keep trying to click is gumbo.12:54
mircea_popescubut i dc, and then i dc, and then i dc and what am i to do ;/12:55
diana_comanget some reliable connection?12:55
mircea_popescuyou know what we should do ? we should make it so it doesn't matter if you dc for crafting. click continues anyway.12:55
diana_comanmrrrr12:56
mircea_popescuomfg that's too cute. stop it stop it!12:56
mircea_popescumaybe you'll have to make a house first. hire some npcs, work them to the bone.12:57
mircea_popescuincidentally, i have a bunch of bod made, should i sell some ?12:58
diana_comanand then eat the bones12:58
diana_comanno idea; atm I am...mining12:58
mircea_popescuaite.12:58
mircea_popescuyeah i guess those cs are going cheap, last batch went what, 400%13:00
mircea_popescuand in other random lulz : out of ~ four dozen redditards WHO WERE LOOKING FOR JOBS that were contacted by starry eyed enthusiast and pointed this way, ZERO managed. a bunch had a bunch of truly retarded questions, such as "i searched for eulora on freenode.net!!!" and so on.13:03
mircea_popescuhttp://logs.minigame.bz/2017-05-05.log.html#t06:37:05 >> i thought you were selling the poc ? was i sellign the poc ?13:07
lobbesbotLogged on 2017-05-05 06:37:05: <diana_coman> not as if anyone actually sold any poc, but hey ho13:07
mircea_popesculobbes http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-05-05.log.html#t09:50:31 << this is what it shouldn't do, though. because "--- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---" is the same as the "--- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---" he was going to put in13:08
lobbesbotLogged on 2017-05-05 09:50:31: <lobbesbot> --- end of auction list, 4mn total bids ---13:08
diana_comanyou sold some high q poc and then said oh, that's nothing to do with 200+ q ma because I'ma gonna sell lower q poc at lower markup13:08
diana_comanand then...I bought at least some toolkits since otherwise no poc at all13:08
mircea_popescuoh.13:09
mircea_popescuahahaha lmao no poc at all!!!13:09
diana_comanfara poc :D13:09
mircea_popescusorry diana_coman , this cons attempting utterly fucked me. i lost about 10 days of crafting during the past three weeks.13:09
mircea_popescuanyway, i shall sell, but gotta dig myself from under all the promises, gs, books, woa...13:09
diana_comanwell, if ma otherwise is not needed /wanted anyway,there's clearly no rush13:10
mircea_popescujust 50 gs clicks threaten to take till mid may13:10
mircea_popescui suppose this is a very clear signal other people can steal lines from me, seeing how i'm plain and simply overwhelmed.13:10
diana_comanaha; clearly one crafter is not enough, just like one gatherer is not enough either13:11
diana_comanand I think that is actually good13:11
mircea_popescuprolly.13:12
mircea_popescu!~calc 474 / 1513:13
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 474 / 15 = 31.59999999999999813:13
mircea_popescuso you turned q 316 bundle into q 297 materials. i guess this is not terrible really.13:13
mircea_popescuum. no wtf.13:14
mircea_popescuyou made a q 3160 ord bundle ? wtf ?13:14
diana_comanwhat?13:17
mircea_popescuhow did you end up with a 474k bundle when they';re 15k bv ?13:18
diana_comanwell, fox-power, no?13:18
mircea_popescuso you put in a q3160 bundle, got out less than 10% that quality ?13:19
mircea_popescuthis is a quality sink.13:19
diana_comanwhere nub puts in 1 mollusc, fox puts in 10 or whatevs13:19
mircea_popescueven so though, getting out less q than putting in13:19
diana_comanwell yes; what I was saying earlier: ords don't up the q13:19
mircea_popescumyeah.13:20
diana_comanquite on the contrary, they lower the q13:20
mircea_popescuit's like snakes and ladders, this thing.13:20
diana_coman!QAuction 3mn 24 200 BOD bps 50q13:27
lobbesbotAUCTION # 93 STARTED by diana_coman: 200 BOD bps 50q Opening: 3mn coppers Ending: 2017-05-06 13:27:44 UTC (24 hours)13:27
mircea_popescu!~calc 2917 * 200 * .513:49
jhvh1mircea_popescu: 2917 * 200 * .5 = 29170013:49
mircea_popescui guess.13:50
mircea_popescu!Qbid 93 3mn13:50
lobbesbotAUCTION # 93: 200 BOD bps 50q Heard: 3mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2017-05-06 13:27:44 UTC (23 hours 37 mins)13:50
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (23h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q13:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (12h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea13:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (16h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q13:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7mn total bids ---13:50
mircea_popescui suppose burning q 300 ma with q 50 bp has the advantage of making some numina at least.13:50
diana_comanwell, I certainly have no other bod bps13:57
mircea_popescuaha.14:11
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (22h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q14:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (11h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea14:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (15h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q14:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7mn total bids ---14:50
lobbesmircea_popescu, I aim to fix the auction announce thing this weekend. Managed to get half of your original request done, but still gotta implement the 'only announce if xyz' half15:15
mircea_popescukk15:15
mircea_popescui only say because i don't know if it wasn't clear or just wasn't implemented. no rush whatever.15:16
danielpbarron!Qbid 91 4.2mn15:26
lobbesbotAUCTION # 91: 13 CS d 89114 ea Heard: 4.2mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (10 hours 40 mins)15:26
danielpbarron!~calc 2.64*90*1345015:27
jhvh1danielpbarron: 2.64*90*13450 = 3195720.000000000515:27
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (21h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q15:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.2mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (10h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea15:50
lobbesbotA#92 O=12mn HB=No bids E=05-06 06:36:44 (14h46) >>> 90 Misshaped Ampoule 264q15:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.2mn total bids ---15:50
diana_comanoh well then, ma are not needed, fine;16:37
diana_coman!QCancel 9216:37
diana_comanugh16:37
diana_coman!QAuctioncancel 9216:37
lobbesbotAUCTION # 92 was cancelled by diana_coman16:37
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danielpbarronhi Black13Snp16:43
Black13Snphi16:43
Black13Snpcan I get an account?16:44
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danielpbarron!~later tell Black13Snp sure. just, you know.. stick around long enough to get it..16:46
jhvh1danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.16:46
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (20h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q16:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.2mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (9h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea16:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.2mn total bids ---16:50
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (19h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q17:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.2mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (8h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea17:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.2mn total bids ---17:50
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lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (18h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q18:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.2mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (7h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea18:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.2mn total bids ---18:50
mircea_popescuactually, i don't think he can, no.18:54
mircea_popescuso i got some bod q 119 i could sell, anyone want/need bod ?19:13
diana_comanmeanwhile noob got to making grass q50+ so unless it gets jammed, there should be enough grass for a night's run by tomorrow, mircea_popescu19:31
mircea_popescuo hey\19:40
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (17h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q19:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.2mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (6h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea19:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.2mn total bids ---19:50
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (16h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q20:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.2mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (5h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea20:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.2mn total bids ---20:50
diana_coman!Qbid 91 4.6mn21:19
lobbesbotAUCTION # 91: 13 CS d 89114 ea Heard: 4.6mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (4 hours 47 mins)21:19
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (15h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q21:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.6mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (4h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea21:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.6mn total bids ---21:50
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (14h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q22:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.6mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (3h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea22:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.6mn total bids ---22:50
lobbesbotA#93 O=3mn HB=3mn E=05-06 13:27:44 (13h37) >>> 200 BOD bps 50q23:50
lobbesbotA#91 O=3.5mn HB=4.6mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (2h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea23:50
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 7.6mn total bids ---23:50
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danielpbarron!Qbid 91 4.7mn23:58
lobbesbotAUCTION # 91: 13 CS d 89114 ea Heard: 4.7mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (2 hours 7 mins)23:58
lobbesbotAUCTION # 91: AUTO-BID Heard: 4.8mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron and 0 other auto-bid(s) Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (2 hours 7 mins)23:59

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