#Eulora log for Wednesday, 2016-10-19

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mircea_popescu3096 tries went by without a hitch. now i'm going to go to bed, and watch it fucking instadie.05:16
diana_comanmorning all09:10
mircea_popescuheya09:41
diana_comananyone selling low q grass/09:42
diana_coman?09:42
mircea_popescuguess not huh.09:55
diana_comanwe are kind of back to the "no-noobs" square 1 thing09:56
diana_comanI suppose I will be happy that I still have q9 cft bps then10:00
diana_comanfunny how this goes10:00
mircea_popesculol11:00
mircea_popescucourse the no noobs thing is more of a "need someone to dig up my ords" than anything, at least in my mind.11:00
mircea_popescuin other news, since i just looked, minigame server pumped out 250gb last month. (this is just the download client part ; actual server traffic is separate)11:18
shinohaiWell at least the 0.0013% did something.11:20
mircea_popescukek11:22
mircea_popescuthe best part being that linux and windows are about even split in download counts, but of course windows is 10x the bw11:23
shinohaihttp://trilema.com/2016/the-planetary-model-of-software-development/   <<< I started to write about my first full month experience in Eulora, and how despite my noobish mistakes still managed to make 10x the bits as compared to the subjects of our btctalk experiment.11:58
lobbesbotTitle: The planetary model of software development. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com)11:58
mircea_popescucool. where is it ?11:59
shinohaiI have it in my drafts folder, should polish it up but had to move hosting for my wptron11:59
* shinohai is seriously considering buying his own box capable of being a webserver12:00
mircea_popescuit's fiddy bux12:01
shinohaiYeah I really just need an old desktop or something I guess. Pogo makes a fine webserver for vanilla pages, but kinda chokes under mysql load xD12:02
Framedraggershinohai: or, i can lend you an ssh account with php-fpm and everything working, that box runs several wp's and it seems to be doing fine :p12:03
shinohainice Framedragger ... I have an account with sdf and it is uber-reliable, I just gotta pay for my vhost. Haven't decided if I am ready to part with the btc for my full membership yet xD12:04
shinohaiI've had mid-level membership there for lik 10 years now lol12:05
Framedraggeroh yeah i've heard of sdf, seems like a nice kommunity, too :)12:05
Framedraggernice12:05
shinohaiI live the netbsd part of things, it all just works12:06
shinohais/live/like/12:07
mircea_popescuso then support them, what.12:10
mircea_popescuif you don't feed the things yo ulike, who will ? hillary ?12:11
shinohaiI do regularly feed them Bitcoinz, they started accepting it 2 yrs ago. That's how I paid for membership12:12
mircea_popescucool deal.12:12
diana_comanmircea_popescu> course the no noobs thing is more of a "need someone to dig up my ords" than anything, at least in my mind. <- indeed12:12
mircea_popescui think shinohai's still taking mining orders ?12:13
mircea_popescuhow's the smalls batch btw ? you finish it ?12:13
diana_comantrouble is he already gets some 60q iirc12:13
shinohaiYup anytime I'll fill orders, and still whittling down the smalls12:13
shinohaiyeah I kinda got a higher q - decisions, decisions12:13
mircea_popescui like q 60 myself.12:14
mircea_popescubtw you were gonna auction some grass or something ?12:14
shinohaiyeah prolly next auction, see how it turns out :)12:14
mircea_popescuwhat do you mean next auction ?12:15
shinohaiSundays?12:15
mircea_popescuyo ucan start one anytime you want.12:15
mircea_popescuminigame dun hold an auction every sun. nothing announced for this sunday at any rate.12:15
diana_comantalking of auctions: how's it going with the grimy thing hanbot ?12:15
mircea_popescuya srsly.12:16
mircea_popescuhanbot didja get yourself all grimed up yet ?12:16
diana_comanand uh, any chance of getting the new books too?12:16
mircea_popescuprolly next week. what did you get again ?12:17
shinohaiThe grime might lube your next tryst with the NFC a bit12:17
mircea_popescu!~google nfc12:17
jhvh1mircea_popescu: Near field communication - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication>; Near Field Communication: <http://nearfieldcommunication.org/>; Home - NFC Forum | NFC Forum: <http://nfc-forum.org/>12:17
lobbesbotTitle: Near field communication - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org)12:17
mircea_popescuuhm12:17
diana_comanshould be gathering 600 and lapidary 200 iirc; will have to check the logs if there was something else12:17
mircea_popescudamn 200 lappy ? you got me...12:18
diana_comanmeanwhile gathering > 700 but I don't quite see it getting to 800 quickly12:18
diana_comanweirdly enough I still have tinkering > gathering despite doing mostly gathering, huh12:18
diana_comanwell, you got tink all the way to 1k or what?12:19
mircea_popescuaha.12:24
mircea_popescualmost 1100 actually.12:24
mircea_popescuand bouq over 500 also12:24
mircea_popescuso it'll be gathering 3 and lapidary 1 for you, tink 5 and boug 2 for me.12:24
diana_coman1100 wow12:27
mircea_popescuyeah been doing lots of it12:31
mircea_popescuoh, i also get sortage 2, i forgot.12:31
diana_comanawww, I'm only 335 in sortage12:51
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diana_comanshinohai, want to build 1 ord for me?14:04
shinohaisure diana_coman you in town?14:05
diana_comanyes14:05
shinohaion my way14:05
diana_comanhm weird, I can see your toon in town although I can't right-click it14:05
diana_comanmust be a phantom-shinoa14:06
shinohaiWeird I'm just logging back in14:06
diana_comanajhaha, 2 shinoas14:06
shinohaiO.o14:07
* shinohai only sees one14:07
diana_comanyeah, my client sometimes does this phantom-things stuff14:07
diana_comananyways, got a screenshot of it for my collection14:07
diana_comanusual 10%; it's one of those down that hill14:08
shinohaioh joy14:08
* shinohai prepares for 3x the death this round14:09
diana_comanmaybe get to it through the water then?14:09
shinohaiI'll eventually find some trick, like that steep hill out of town used to ALWAYS kill me14:09
diana_coman"death on the hills!" - nb for eulora's tabloid14:10
diana_comanI usually go through the water myself, hence mentioned it, kind of not bothered with the water at all14:10
shinohaiYou need this key back or should I leave it14:13
* shinohai thinks it's kinda pretty down here by the water at night.14:18
diana_comanyou can leave it, no need14:22
shinohaiso 1.4k @ q7714:24
shinohai>.>14:24
diana_comannot bad at all14:24
diana_comansome 65k there for a cs ord quite all right14:24
diana_comanactually hmm, would you like to try using a cs for me?14:25
diana_comanyou should get only ords with it, but kind of curious if it still holds14:25
* shinohai finally got around to editing some shortcuts in, makes life so much easier.14:25
diana_comanahh, yeah; you can set some keys for commands too (I have a key for explore since way,way back)14:26
shinohaiI'm in town btw whenever you get ready just ping me14:29
diana_comanon my way as soon as I finish this cs; should be in town in ~5min14:32
shinohaikk no rush14:33
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diana_comanshinohai, ping14:48
diana_comandid you keep your 10%?14:50
shinohaiNah, was gonna tell you you can keep it for now if you like since I may be selling the other grass directly to you14:50
shinohaiin lieu of auction14:50
diana_comanyum14:50
diana_comanbut you should still get your money on this then14:51
shinohaikk14:51
diana_coman!~calc 0.10*1.5*0.77*60*143814:52
jhvh1diana_coman: 0.10*1.5*0.77*60*1438 = 9965.34000000000214:52
diana_coman10k, not bad14:53
diana_comanshinohai, trade please14:53
diana_comanthanks!14:54
shinohaity14:54
shinohaicheers!14:54
hanbotheya all. re the grimy thing: all i can report so far is that it's not a container, and it can be equipped in either hand. moar when i figure it out.16:22
diana_comanahh, so a tool of some sorts, interesting16:22
diana_comankind of makes sense I guess seeing how it is a tool-kit, lol16:22
hanbotoh, and anyone who has/loots a bp that includes the phrase "using grimy toolkit" may be monetarily incentivized to share details ofc.16:26
* diana_coman has never seen "grimy toolkit" on anything so far16:32
hanbotkk16:34
diana_comanbut usually isn't it containers that are "using x"?16:34
hanbotoh right, i suppose i meant "with a x"16:45
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mircea_popescuahahaha i got a smelly murky something!18:59
mircea_popescuwoot.18:59
diana_comanoooo, congrats!19:00
mircea_popescuthis 5.4k run is so totally in the black...19:00
diana_comanwhat did you get that out of?19:00
mircea_popescuthe problem is i have nfi19:00
mircea_popescui tookl a bath19:00
mircea_popescustill i found it around the fire pit19:01
diana_comanoh, does the bot report it as some sort of smelly murky claim???19:01
mircea_popescunope. it evidently came out of one of the normal claims19:02
diana_comanI somehow thought it was loot for some reason19:02
diana_comanaha19:02
mircea_popescui think so ya19:02
diana_comandoes it match the quality of any specific resource?19:02
mircea_popescunope.19:03
diana_comanserver coming down in 50 minutes; usual maintenance&update19:04
diana_comanserver back on, enjoy!20:38
mircea_popescuyee20:38
shinohaity diana_coman20:40
diana_comanshinohai, want to build some pss ords?20:40
diana_comanjust got a new crop, lol20:40
shinohaisure, lemme fire up client20:40
* diana_coman chants: eulora client's always ooooon20:41
mircea_popesculol20:42
mircea_popescuhe's young yet, doesn't have the skills to burn through his skin20:42
shinohaiok diana_coman ... trade you?20:44
diana_comanyes please20:44
shinohaio720:45
diana_comangood luck, they are all around same place20:45
diana_comanweird place that: got 7 ords out of 14 cs, which is kind of way better than what I got anywhere else recently20:45
diana_comanand oh, no more seeing double-shinoas, yay20:45
shinohai1 is enough? :(20:46
diana_comanawww shinohai20:46
diana_comanbetter one, the one and only20:46
shinohaiok I have a weird issue diana_coman. I developed all 4 claims, left them locked. Now I go back for the goods and all but ONE claim will open21:37
shinohaiI can see the stuff inside21:38
shinohaibut wont let me unlock it21:38
diana_comando you still have the key for that?21:39
diana_comanand what does it say?21:39
diana_comanbasically it would not let you open it if you don't have the key21:39
diana_comanshinohai ^21:40
shinohaiYup still have all 4 keys, just says "This lock is impossible to open by lockpicking"21:40
diana_comanuhm, that is what is says when you have the wrong key21:40
* shinohai looks to see if he picked up an extra somehow21:40
diana_comancan you check that the coords on one of your keys are exactly those on the claim?21:40
diana_comanthere were a few other ord claims there which I built and then put the key in them so maybe you picked one of those?21:41
diana_comangive me the coords of the locked claim too so I can check if I have the key for it21:41
shinohaione sec21:42
shinohainm found it21:43
diana_comanheh, happens :)21:43
shinohaidropped the damned thing xD21:43
diana_comanyeah, a key chain would be nice21:44
diana_comanall the nice things that one cannot get in eulora ...21:44
diana_comanbtw that's usually my check when I drop a key: I try to open the claim I thought it was for as it should fail with that message if I am right; it saves me the horrible mess when I actually drop the wrong key otherwise21:45
shinohai1045 q7721:45
diana_coman!~calc 1045*0.77*26221:46
jhvh1diana_coman: 1045*0.77*262 = 210818.321:46
diana_comanhow many was that, 4 claims?21:46
shinohaiyup21:46
diana_comanabout 50k each, basically as expected/according to current theories, lol21:47
diana_comannot bad, anyway21:47
diana_comanshinohai, do you want pss or ecu?21:52
diana_coman(I grabbed the stones from the table, lol)21:52
shinohaioh ok i was wonderin where dafuq they went21:54
shinohaiecu again please21:54
diana_coman!~calc 0.10*1.8*0.77*262*104521:54
jhvh1diana_coman: 0.10*1.8*0.77*262*1045 = 37947.2940000000121:54
shinohaity again had fun on that one lol21:55
diana_coman40k, thanks!21:55
diana_comanheh, learnt about keys at least?21:55
diana_comanoh btw, do you want to try a chetty stick?21:56
shinohaiI have no idea what to do with it but sure21:56
diana_comanit's a mega exploration tool basically21:56
shinohaiO.o21:56
diana_comanso it'll probably bump you up one level in gathering21:56
diana_comanit takes its time though so you need to equip it in hand then go to some place and start explore and do NOT move until it finishes21:57
diana_comanif you move, the tool is wasted21:57
diana_comanit has only one shot too21:57
shinohaiso dont use it with the bot21:57
diana_comanno, no21:57
diana_comanactually you *can* use it with the bot if you know what you are doing and have a pile of them21:58
diana_comanbut with only one there is no point anyway21:58
shinohai"Use once and destroy" ?21:58
mircea_popescucurious what he gets.21:58
mircea_popescuesp curious if he can find basics with it.21:58
diana_comanit has q about 20k; when you use it, it will go down to about 62 and then it will say it's worn out if you try to use it again21:59
diana_comanI do want it back so don't throw it away21:59
diana_comananyways, come to where Foxy is21:59
shinohaikk21:59
diana_comanaha mircea_popescu that's what I'm curious about too21:59
mircea_popescuwatch him get canines or some crazy shit.22:00
shinohaixD22:00
diana_comanjust dig where you are shinohai22:00
shinohaiok was abt to ask that22:00
diana_comanahahaha, that'd be fun22:00
diana_comanftr never found canines here, lol22:00
mircea_popescuya but who knows22:00
diana_comanthere's always a first time though22:00
diana_comanmy bets are on pss or wpl, but boulder would be really interesting22:01
diana_comanshinohai, did it start working? (the progress bar)22:01
mircea_popescumy bet is sizable boulder22:01
mircea_popescubecause why the fuck not.22:01
shinohaiyes it started finally22:02
diana_comancool, just don't move, wait for it to finish22:02
shinohaiGot a polished stone ord22:09
mircea_popescuaha22:09
diana_comanaha, well done shinohai ; did you rank up in gathering at least?22:12
shinohailvl 2822:12
mircea_popescunb22:12
diana_comanI'll be back in town in some ~4 min22:12
shinohaikk22:13
diana_comanor even better: mind buying a bundle from spirover and building the ord for me too?22:13
diana_comanI'll give you the ecu for the bundle + 10% as usual, ofc22:13
shinohaiwill do!22:13
diana_comanthanks22:13
diana_comancurious if he still gets around 50k on it22:13
mircea_popescuya really22:14
diana_comanactually how's the bot going mircea_popescu ?22:16
diana_comanor no complaints = works fine22:16
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shinohaiThe green bar stopped but still hasnt shown me anything, I think this happened before22:26
shinohaireset and started again :/22:26
diana_comanwhat does it say in the chat bar?22:26
diana_comandid it say that you stopped working or something like that?22:26
shinohainope22:27
diana_comanhm, weird22:27
shinohaii moved to reset it and it started over again though so see ya in 5-10 mebbe lol22:27
diana_comankk22:27
shinohaidiana_coman: I'm there can u move close when u have a sec?22:36
shinohailol22:36
diana_comansure22:36
shinohaikk22:37
diana_coman!~calc 592*0.35*26222:37
jhvh1diana_coman: 592*0.35*262 = 54286.39999999999422:37
diana_comanapparently even more than 50k22:37
diana_comanso by this single data point it's more if you dig the claim too, lol22:37
diana_comananyways let's see22:37
shinohaiThis game loves throwing you curveballs.22:38
diana_coman!~calc 48522+0.10*1.8*0.35*592*26222:38
jhvh1diana_coman: 48522+0.10*1.8*0.35*592*262 = 58293.55199999999622:38
diana_comanthat fine?22:39
diana_comanthanks!22:39
shinohaiPerfect thanks that was interesting :)22:39
diana_comanand yeah, game is very...curvy22:39
* shinohai finally used the mysterious chetty stick22:40
diana_comanheh; liked it?22:40
shinohaiThat was way better than stone adze lol22:41
shinohaibut the adze lasted a few attempts longer22:41
diana_comanahahaaha; gotta say I somehow loathe adzes; for some reason always seem to perform worst among basic tools for foxy at least22:41
shinohaianyone wants one for the repair pile I have it in storage22:42
diana_comancan be made into improved adze22:42
diana_comanlol mircea_popescu are you crafting ppb out in the open?22:44
mircea_popescuyeh23:10
mircea_popescudiana_coman the bot did 5.3k without a hitch until server went down23:11

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