#Eulora log for Thursday, 2016-04-28

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Birdmanmircea_popescu ^00:29
mircea_popescuso 1mn for the 500 ?00:35
Birdmanwhat you wanna buy em all for 1mn?00:39
Birdmantheir bv alone isnt 400k, i meant all the bps i looted and maculature00:40
Birdman562 @q255 making them worth 275 each so if you'd want the lot i'd sell for 400k00:42
Birdmandiana_coman if you wanna sell me that low q tome for 15% over bv im game00:43
Birdmanidk what you want for it, but i cant see paying any big mark up on something so low q00:43
mircea_popescuBirdman aite, 400k it is then.00:48
Birdmanmeet in town now?00:58
mircea_popescuhit me Birdman01:12
Birdmanpleasure doing business01:13
Birdmanso diana_coman if you wanna sell me that other high q tome, i can buy it01:14
mircea_popescuin other news, dg bundle 107 product 15501:14
Birdmanbp q?01:15
Birdmanover 600k bv in boulders from this ord o.O01:25
Birdman7329 boulders q14401:25
Birdmanmircea_popescu you wanna buy these 120% over bv before i put em into storage?01:27
mircea_popescuaite i will.01:33
Birdmani need to get my hands on a sortage book too01:34
mircea_popescutrade me01:35
Birdmanthanks you too01:36
Birdmanalso, are boulders 60 or 59 bv, i did the math at 6001:36
Birdmanyeh they're 59, so i think i owe you ~ 12.5k01:38
Birdmandiana_coman, tomes?03:05
mircea_popescunext time03:32
Birdmanyeah no big deal03:35
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Zakorus123im trying to sign up for the game looks like i have to see mercea to make an account06:58
Zakorus123anyone home?06:59
Birdmanhello Zakorus12307:00
Birdmanaround this time i assume mircea_popescu is sleeping, have you registered a gpg key with gribble?07:00
Zakorus123how do i do that07:01
Zakorus123honestly im not much of a techy compared to most in the bitcoin field07:01
Zakorus123i just grabbed the binaries and unpakced them at c07:01
Birdmanim not really the one to talk to about it either, but im sure someone will help you out soon enough07:03
Birdmanbut as far as i know that is a prerequisite for getting an account07:03
Zakorus123ok cool07:03
Zakorus123ok downloading gbg now07:04
Birdmantry /query gribble on freenode and say register that might help07:07
Zakorus123allrighty going good so far07:08
Zakorus123so... ive downloaded  gnupg for windows07:15
Zakorus123stuck now07:15
Zakorus123how do i make the key07:15
Zakorus123ok made the key07:19
Zakorus123done made keys password protected and such07:27
Zakorus123what keyserver do i register my keys with for gribble to recognise them07:38
Birdman<gribble>(register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.07:40
Zakorus123keyservers config... looking07:44
Zakorus123where would that be again07:45
Birdmani havent the slightest clue to be honest07:50
Zakorus123ok got it done07:50
Birdmansweet, registered an all with gribble?07:51
Zakorus123i think07:51
Zakorus123now what?07:53
diana_comanhi Zakorus12307:53
Birdman<gribble>(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.07:53
Birdmanauth with gribble then you're good to go i think07:54
Zakorus123this nick is not registered wtf07:54
diana_comanwait a sec, you might be fine07:55
diana_comanmeh, no07:55
diana_comanhm, so what did you do so far?07:56
diana_comangot yourself a pair of keys and then?07:56
Birdmanhuh, keybase is telling me i cant decrypt in the browser anymore since im not hosting my private key with them07:56
Zakorus123registered the long version of the pub key07:57
diana_comanwith gribble you mean?07:57
Zakorus123thats what i did last07:57
Zakorus123did i do something wrong?07:58
diana_comanoh, you need to register with deedbot07:58
lobbesbotTitle: Account Setup - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org)07:58
diana_comanBirdman, that's the link to give to newcomers really07:58
Birdmanwill keep that in mind07:58
diana_comannothing wrong, no worries, just need to do something else Zakorus12307:58
Zakorus123i need to armor it first?07:59
diana_comanit's probably a good idea to get it in ascii-armored format, yes08:01
Zakorus123ok done08:01
diana_comanok, so successfully exported and uploaded to some key server, then query deedbot and register08:01
diana_comanat the very bottom of that page08:02
diana_comanoh, Birdman you wanted another doubtful tome, right?08:02
diana_comancome and collect08:02
diana_comanthe one of 56q I could let go for 180% but not less really since still no additional bps..08:03
Zakorus123ok i reg with deedbot but it didnt respond. is it supposed to respond?08:04
diana_comanit might take a while08:04
diana_comanI can check that again in a minute08:04
diana_comanso how did you make your way here Zakorus123 ?08:05
Zakorus123i found you on an RME forum08:05
Zakorus123lemme go find it again08:05
Zakorus123as in real-money-economy08:05
diana_comanaha, cool08:06
Zakorus123http://weirdcommunity.wikia.com/wiki/Real_Cash_Economy_%28Make_Money_in_Virtual_Worlds%29 here08:06
lobbesbotTitle: Real Cash Economy (Make Money in Virtual Worlds) - Weird Community Wiki - Wikia (at weirdcommunity.wikia.com)08:06
Zakorus123been trying real hard to find a good bitcoin game08:06
Zakorus123for atleast a yeaer08:06
diana_comandid you get to have a look at the wiki/starting page thing? http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora08:07
lobbesbotTitle: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org)08:07
diana_comanthe vocabulary concepts and game mechanics are especially good as a starting point08:07
diana_comanheh, you're here08:07
Zakorus123ok cool checking it out08:07
diana_comanhm, deedbot still says you are not registered, did it reply at all?08:08
Zakorus123what should my key look like b4 sending it08:10
Zakorus123should it be ascii armored08:10
diana_comanhm, weird, try with $register instead of !register as it's written on the wiki as I think deedbot was changed overall to use $08:11
diana_comanit's just the key id you need to register with it08:11
Zakorus123ok so... its still not responding08:11
Zakorus123it responded08:12
diana_comanaha, cool08:12
Zakorus123and said registered08:12
diana_comanyay, well done08:12
Zakorus123now how do i get a wonderful brand new shiny account08:12
diana_comanas soon as mircea_popescu wakes up he'll make you one08:12
Zakorus123well ima gonna eat something while i wait08:20
diana_comansure, enjoy your meal Zakorus12308:21
diana_comanupdated wiki too08:21
Birdmanso you got some tomes diana_coman ?08:22
Birdmanill take the high q one08:22
diana_comanyes, started to build an ord close to town, should be some 5 min08:22
Birdmanno problem08:23
Birdmanhopefully i get a pop of cs bps, but even those seem underwhelming as of late08:26
Birdmani swear my barehanded ords are more fruitful08:26
diana_comanah, I could sell some cs I suppose too, lemme see08:28
Birdmanany q150+ threads?08:29
Birdmanwhat mark up are we lookin at?08:30
diana_comanhm, I have 192q that I'll sell for 175% and 144q that I'll sell for 150%08:34
Birdmanill take the 19208:34
diana_comanhow much of it?08:34
Birdman1k should do fine08:35
Birdmanand how much for that tome?08:35
diana_comanas usual 240%08:35
diana_comanunless you come with some bps, there is nothing I can do there08:35
Birdmanmeh, next months auction though huh?08:35
diana_comanare there tome bps?08:36
Birdman1k of em08:36
diana_comangood; let me see if I can put together some cs for sale08:36
Birdmani think i may have use for a noob, too seeing as i have a stack of shitty shredding instructions08:36
Birdmannoobs can barehanded for free, so i give noob low q bits, they barehanded and build claims and let them keep say 5-10% of whatever they find and free exp08:37
diana_comanmeh, not this round it seems08:37
diana_comanplenty of things for noobs to do still08:37
Birdmanmight not be the most profitable thing to use, getting really low q resources, but my time is better spent than grinding through a stack of q89 bits08:38
diana_comantrade Birdman08:38
Birdman1.27mn cool?08:40
diana_comanlol, k08:40
diana_coman15k discount, lolz08:41
diana_comanat least get some bps already08:41
Birdmanwhat 560 psc isnt good enough??08:41
Birdmanbelieve me if i could get some better stuff from these damn consids i would08:41
diana_comanBirdman, do you have ANY idea what goes into these things and how costly it is to get them?08:42
diana_comanand to get them at this huge q no less08:42
Birdmanthe dt? i was looking into it, seems pretty difficult08:43
diana_comannot to mention how many runs of all sorts involved08:43
diana_comanBirdman> noobs can barehanded for free, so i give noob low q bits, they barehanded and build claims and let them keep say 5-10% of whatever they find and free exp <- they are unlikely to find much barehanded though08:45
diana_comanso probably better give them your claims or something08:45
Birdmanyeah but you know, gotta start somewhere08:45
Birdmanoh you know what thats an amazing idea08:45
diana_comansure, I give them tools, lol08:45
Birdmancause im not building them anyways08:45
diana_comanthere, win-win08:45
Birdmanjust have em follow me around08:45
Birdmanand eventually their q wont suck so damn much08:45
Birdmangetting q 379 bbb from these threads, not bad08:48
Birdmanlooking at thread costs with the 175% markup to bean value im making lots, just not factoring the cs it cost to get em08:49
diana_comanquite good there indeed08:51
diana_comanbut I suppose the cs cost is the biggest part there, isn't it?08:51
Birdmanyep, and assuming such high q things go for well over base value i might even be breaking even08:52
Birdmanyeah for sure08:52
diana_comananyway, can't calculate on a few small claims since you are supposedly using the cs to get some ords08:52
Birdmanyeah but those are always pretty crappy08:52
diana_comanuhm, they go for 130% as far as I know, lol08:52
diana_comanords from cs are crappy?08:52
Birdmani think of using cs as a way to pay to level up more than get profit from, till that remarkable hits or w/e08:52
diana_comanjust got 1k wpl from one, so uhm, not really08:52
Birdmancompared to my bare handed ords yeah08:53
Birdmanthey are just fewer and further between08:53
diana_comanmy bare handed ords are always shitty08:53
Birdmani think of my barehanded ords as mini pops, the output in exp and resource is very nice08:54
diana_comangood for you, I can think of my bh ords as mini-poops I suppose, barely any resources to speak of08:57
diana_comanmircea_popescu, wpl available: 2k at 144q and 2.5k ~220q09:05
Zakorus123im back09:07
Zakorus123so is the currency enumerated in satoshis?09:07
Zakorus123or bits?09:07
Zakorus123or whole coins with .00~suchandsuch09:07
Zakorus123i suppose ill find out once my account is made09:12
diana_comanZakorus123, it's 1 copper = 1 satoshi, where copper is the smallest denomination in game09:13
Zakorus123ok cool09:13
diana_comanhave a look at the trades we did just a bit earlier09:14
Zakorus123im super excited09:14
diana_comanso what do you do otherwise?09:14
Zakorus123im sadly disabled so i cant work09:14
Zakorus123get government assistance09:14
Zakorus123i dont really wanna talk about that tho09:15
Zakorus123its depressing09:15
diana_comanyou into programming at all?09:15
Zakorus123i try to learn09:15
Zakorus123emphissi on try09:16
Zakorus123i just never really had the ability to sit down and do it09:16
diana_comanI'm asking because eulora seems to suck people into programming for some reason09:16
diana_comannot mandatory by any means, just saying what I see09:16
Zakorus123lol maybe itll start me on the journey09:16
Zakorus123i just need to stop faffing about on things that arent important09:17
diana_comansounds like a very good idea indeed09:17
diana_comanZakorus123, re money maybe have a look at the official auctions too, this is the upcoming one: http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-official-may-auction-or-a-celebration-of-lifestyles/09:22
lobbesbotTitle: Eulora : Official May Auction, or a celebration of lifestyles! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com)09:22
diana_comanand otherwise look at the s.mg category09:23
Zakorus123big numbers09:23
Zakorus123lots of info09:25
diana_comanECU = euloran copper, hence 1 ecu = 1 satoshi; otherwise yes, lots to take in about eulora so take it slow09:26
Zakorus123ic ic09:28
Zakorus123thats A TON of satoshis09:28
diana_comanheh, full bitcoins, not talking crumbles here09:28
Zakorus123yeah wow09:29
Zakorus123most ive ever made is faucet amounts09:29
Zakorus123is there an initial investment?09:29
Zakorus123like u can deposit as well as withdraw09:30
diana_comanZakorus123, there is no hard requirement either way really: you can work your way up for sure, but obviously it takes more time (and mainly learning /figuring things out)09:30
Zakorus123do you ahve to deposit to start09:30
Zakorus123ok cool09:30
diana_comanno, you don't *have to* deposit; and yes, you can both deposit and withdraw09:30
Zakorus123thats amazing09:30
Zakorus123i love it09:30
diana_comananyway, plenty of people around willing to give you stuff to do so that you make something really, just take it slowly, stick to it and otherwise don't rush09:31
Zakorus123i gotcha09:31
Zakorus123ive played entropia universe. i know that rushing leads to untimely death... over. and over...09:31
diana_comanoh, here death is not yet a big deal; trouble is that rushing leads to ...rapid loss of money?09:32
Zakorus123lol thats waht i mean09:32
Zakorus123but in entropia it costs money. death- in the form of armor decay09:32
Zakorus123weapon decay... too09:32
diana_comanhere, a bit more reading perhaps (just keep in mind that eulora changes quite quickly too) : http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/10/22/the-unbearably-unknown-value-of-things-in-eulora/09:32
diana_comanyeah, the decay part is in here too; but death atm means just a few minutes wait until you are alive again basically (this will change in time gradually towards permanent death of your character - when marriage + children are implemented)09:34
Zakorus123do you lose skill with death?09:35
diana_comanso far no, no loss of anything really09:35
Zakorus123about how many people concurrently play this game?09:36
diana_comanI think S.MG published some stats, I don't recall exactly; there are a bunch of hard-core veterans that you'll see around here too and then people join in as they see fit09:37
diana_comanbtw, do you know this channel is logged so that you can catch up with anything?09:37
lobbesbotTitle: #Eulora Log (at logs.minigame.bz)09:38
Zakorus123super cool09:39
Zakorus123leaves some of the problems of unlogged chat which is good09:40
Zakorus123like scammers09:40
Zakorus123and such09:40
Zakorus123this day and age its a stupidly bad problem09:41
diana_comanheh, you'll find things quite different around here - read a bit more about the WOT I suppose09:42
Zakorus123im happy to hear that09:44
Zakorus123cus honestly i cant stand scammers09:44
Zakorus123they really get my goat yknow09:44
Zakorus123like theres this guy named supa on a game called DT all he does is scam- get banned scam- get banned. and he irritates the shit out of me. he keeps coming back with a diffa ccount too09:45
Zakorus123scuse my french09:46
diana_comanZakorus123, wot stands for web of trust and it works exactly as the name implies; there's a reason for the initial requirement to get yourself a gpg key and register09:47
Zakorus123ok good09:47
Zakorus123that makes me happy09:47
Zakorus123youll never find me ripping someone off09:47
Zakorus123the gpg key is a good insurance tho09:47
Zakorus123makes me extra happy09:47
Zakorus123i can feel safe spending my money here09:48
Zakorus123cus that is in short supply for me these days09:48
diana_comanthe point is: keys are not insurance against anything as such, but the whole thing makes it *more costly* for people to scam than to be honest, that's all09:48
Zakorus123and that makes me feel safe09:49
Zakorus123tehrefore its "insureance"09:49
diana_comanbasically your gpg key IS your identity around here; sure, you can scam but that will basically fuck up your whole identity and account with it and that's not a little thing to lose by the time you get in any position to do any sort of real scamming09:50
diana_comananyway, *always* do your homework anyways09:50
Zakorus123i understand completely and that makes me a happy man09:50
Zakorus123https://imgur.com/gallery/elnA2TM smiling doge palate cleanser09:51
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Zakorus123im new here10:16
Zakorus123still waiting on an account to be made10:16
GaxaroAh i see. I been here for a few months now i think.10:16
GaxaroI'm quite suprised because i recently found out that steam accepts bitcoins as payments10:17
Gaxarofor dlcs,games etc.10:17
Zakorus123yeah isnt it great!10:17
Zakorus123super exciting10:18
GaxaroGonna try buying this dlc for rocket leauge for 3,99 euro with the 45 USD worth of bitcoins i been having for a long time now.10:18
Zakorus123now all thats left is entropia unverse should start accepting10:19
GaxaroHaven't really used it on anything. Just been having it on the wallet for saving.10:19
Zakorus123gl hope it works10:19
GaxaroI hope so.10:20
Zakorus123havent tried it myeself yet10:20
GaxaroYou're using blockchain too, i assume?10:21
GaxaroNever heard about that one.10:22
Zakorus123its a good wallet10:22
GaxaroOh i see.10:23
Zakorus123its like bitcoin core-- cept you dont have to download the whole blockchain10:23
GaxaroI'll guess i'm gonna play some rocket leauge then.10:45
GaxaroIt's a pretty sweet game.10:45
GaxaroLots of fun.10:45
Zakorus123is mircea here yet12:08
diana_comanZakorus123, I think you came pretty much after he went to sleep, so you'll probably still have to wait a bit more - he's usually around otherwise so it won't be much longer though12:19
Zakorus123ok cool12:19
Zakorus123got nothing on my plate today12:20
Zakorus123so ill be here12:20
diana_comanwhat's your local time?12:20
Zakorus123right now12:20
Zakorus123821 to be exact12:20
diana_comanoh, you've been up through the night then, huh12:21
Zakorus123Eastern standard time12:21
Zakorus123couldnt sleep12:21
diana_comanthat sucks12:21
Zakorus123meh its fine12:21
Zakorus123i have a wierd sleep schedual some days12:22
Zakorus123be back later12:49
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Zakorus123mircea here yet13:47
Zakorus123how bout now?14:29
danielpbarrondiana_coman> mircea_popescu, wpl available: 2k at 144q and 2.5k ~220q << I'll take14:32
danielpbarronZakorus123> like theres this guy named supa << hahaha I have that guy negatively rated in our very WoT !14:32
danielpbarrondeedbot> danielpbarron rated supa -8 at 3616762927 << He said, and I quote: Promises mean nothing and you never have to keep them.14:32
Zakorus123hes going everywhere then14:33
Zakorus123what a dick14:33
danielpbarronyeah he used to scam people in -otc .. prolly still does14:33
Zakorus123fuck that guy14:34
Zakorus123hes a plague upon Dt14:34
Zakorus123and apparently a plague upon you guys too14:34
danielpbarronWoT is so effective, people like that don't even bother14:35
Zakorus123ok good14:35
Zakorus123i wish that Di(admin of dt) would impliment something like this14:35
danielpbarronit's not luser phriendly enough i'm sure14:35
danielpbarroni nagged seals with clubs to implement WoT and they largely laughed at and ignored me14:35
Zakorus123yeah :/14:36
Zakorus123sad situation14:36
Zakorus123any idea when mircea will come on to make my account?14:36
danielpbarronwhatever, turns out there's more than enough poker i can play face to face as to not need to bother with online14:36
danielpbarronhe's often around at this hour but he's not on any sorta fixed schedule so who knows14:37
danielpbarronhe is the most prolific chatter though, so it's only a matter of time14:37
mircea_popescudid you want an account?14:37
Zakorus123yes please14:37
Zakorus123already registered with my GPG key14:38
mircea_popescuaite one second.14:38
Zakorus123ty so much14:38
Zakorus123im very glad that you guys have a wot system14:39
Zakorus123it makes me very happy14:39
mircea_popescuwhyssat ?14:41
Zakorus123because i know that its easier for me to check on would-be scammers14:41
Zakorus123and not get scammed14:41
Zakorus123ive been scammed one too many time14:42
Zakorus123makes me very wary14:42
Zakorus123this just makes it so much easier14:42
Zakorus123honest people. (even if they are not honest really) should be made honest by the use of good technology14:43
mircea_popescuZakorus123 http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3c47a607-a06d-4cb5-abe5-7e052e0e1b61/14:43
mircea_popescugive it ~5 mins to propagate to server.14:43
mircea_popescuwowza this log.14:45
mircea_popescuBirdman  try /query gribble on freenode and say register that might help << deedbot actually, not gribble.14:46
Zakorus123how do i decode a pgp message a gain (uber nuber i am)14:46
mircea_popescuwhat software are you using ?14:46
mircea_popescunormally it's just $gpg and paste your message in14:46
Zakorus123ok just verifying thats the correct info14:48
Zakorus123is my password for the game my pgp decryption phrase14:49
mircea_popescuit's in the message.14:50
mircea_popescuo look at that, wikia page. hey danielpbarron / anyone, feel like going through the list of other links there and evaluating them ?14:51
mircea_popescumebbe we should make friends.14:51
mircea_popescuhttp://logs.minigame.bz/2016-04-28.log.html#t08:06:10 here ftr.14:52
lobbesbotTitle: #Eulora log for Thursday, 2016-04-28 (at logs.minigame.bz)14:52
mircea_popescudiana_coman> hm, weird, try with $register instead of !register as it's written on the wiki as I think deedbot was changed overall to use $ << yeah this needs a fix on wiki.14:52
mircea_popescualso prolly a mention that deedbot takes ~a minute to answer.14:52
mircea_popescudiana_coman> mircea_popescu, wpl available: 2k at 144q and 2.5k ~220q << sure.14:56
mircea_popescuZakorus123> like u can deposit as well as withdraw << you can deposit ; you don't have to. there are things you can do even without putting anything in (barehanded mining, errands for people, clicking stuff, whatever). it's not going to pay you a living wage, but it will cover the electricity and certainly beat the socks off any bitcoin faucet.14:58
mircea_popescuconsidering all bitcoin in existence is and was mined by people running computing gear that ~barely covered its electricity costs, eulora is well ahead of the pack.14:59
Zakorus123anyway i forogt the unarmor command14:59
Zakorus123so im having trouble getting the password14:59
mircea_popescuanyway, even if you do intend to put something in, my advice would be to not do it at first, best to learn the ropes on the cheap. do it later, what's the rush.15:00
Zakorus123yeah no rush15:00
Zakorus123is it unarmor... dearmor15:01
mircea_popescuZakorus123 well if you ever figure out how it works, be a darling and put a page up on eulorum wiki, WITH SCREENSHOTS and everything. "here is how you do it in windows".15:01
diana_comanmircea_popescu> diana_coman> hm, weird, try with $register instead of !register as it's written on the wiki as I think deedbot was changed overall to use $ << yeah this needs a fix on wiki. <- I fixed it already15:01
Zakorus123ill try15:01
mircea_popescuand ima give you some game swag once it's done :)15:01
mircea_popescudiana_coman a tyvm.15:02
Zakorus123ah! its dearmor15:02
Zakorus123thats my misatake15:02
diana_comanZakorus123, you need to decrypt the text you got from mircea_popescu to find out your password15:03
Zakorus123yes i know15:03
Zakorus123but im trying to figure out how to do that15:04
diana_comanwhatever software you are using should have some way to decrypt stuff, lol15:04
mircea_popescuZakorus123> about how many people concurrently play this game? << players clocked a total of 3387 playtime hours in march. comes to about 5.9 people online at any time on average.15:04
Zakorus123allrighty mircea is this a safe tool? https://www.igolder.com/PGP/decryption/ or should i avoid it15:05
lobbesbotTitle: PGP Decryption Tool - iGolder (at www.igolder.com)15:05
diana_comanthis time mircea_popescu gets the wpl; next time danielpbarron15:05
mircea_popescuZakorus123 you should use whatever program oyhu used to make your key ; never use something online for this.15:05
Zakorus123ok thanks15:05
Zakorus123just trying to figure out how to use gnupg to use it15:06
mircea_popescu;;google decrypt with gnupg15:06
mircea_popescuoh gribble not here huh.15:06
Zakorus123good idea15:06
Zakorus123found it15:07
mircea_popescui suppose it's time to link http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ huh.15:07
lobbesbotTitle: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com)15:08
mircea_popescu<Zakorus123> mircea here yet <Zakorus123> how bout now? <<< ahaha he's adorbs isn't he!15:09
Zakorus123ok so is the password to un-encrypt it the private key or the password i made to protect my private key15:11
mircea_popescuaanielpbarron> it's not luser phriendly enough i'm sure <<< actually teppy (the actual guy behind dt, i think di's the man's so ?) is pretty smart, i kinda like him and how he thinks. no idea why exactly he's not got wot down, possibly nobody held him down long enough to explain it.15:11
mircea_popescuZakorus123 the latter.15:11
Zakorus123ok its decrypted but which is my pass and which is my userid15:12
Zakorus123lemme just try both15:12
mircea_popescuthink of it like this : encrypted data is like a huge bundle of junk. your key is like this magic hammer that you hit junk with and bam! it becomes something else meanignful like a car or a tv set. the software is like the workshop where this happens ; and the passphrase is like this key you need for the workshop to get your hammer ; because everyone has his special patterned one and they keep them in these glass cases.15:13
mircea_popescuso you bring it some junk, give it the key to fetch your hammer, it takes it, bangs the junk once and presto, you got a new football.15:13
mircea_popescuand if you want to give your footbal to someone but make sure they don't steal it in the mail, or you know, just want to keep it safe,15:13
mircea_popescuyou go to same shop, they bang it once and now it's junk.15:13
mircea_popescumagical fucking junk, too : unless banged with the right hammer nothing happens.15:14
Zakorus123i think i did something wrong15:15
diana_comanZakorus123, how's that?15:17
Zakorus123idk but the message i get back makes no sense to me15:17
diana_comanthe message you got back from what?15:17
diana_comanthat should contain username and password15:17
diana_comanpassword surely won't make sense15:17
Zakorus123shouldnt it just be my username and password15:17
Zakorus123but it isnt15:18
mircea_popescuthen you did something wrong.15:18
Zakorus123lemme try this again15:18
Zakorus123do i need the begin and end part15:18
mircea_popescudanielpbarron> he is the most prolific chatter though, so it's only a matter of time << lol check out danielpbarron 's summoning skills!15:18
Zakorus123with the dashes15:18
Zakorus123can you try to send it to me again maybe you sent me the wrong message15:21
mircea_popescui just checked it works fine. use http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3c47a607-a06d-4cb5-abe5-7e052e0e1b61/?raw=true though, you're prolly getting the header mixed into your message.15:23
Zakorus123yes i am15:23
GaxaroSup peeps15:24
mircea_popescuhow goes Gaxaro15:24
GaxaroSo yeah i spent like 4 dollars from the bitcoin wallet onto steam for the rocket leauge dlc15:24
Gaxaroand it worked just fine15:25
diana_comanyou mean from the btc you made by playing eulora Gaxaro ?15:25
GaxaroGoing good, proberly going to see the new jungle book movie at the cinema with my child hood friend today15:25
Gaxaroand yeah Diana15:26
mircea_popescuahaha he made $$$  ?15:26
mircea_popesculol win.15:26
Gaxaro41 usd left lol15:26
diana_comanheh, cool15:26
mircea_popescu"how to play computer games. step 1 - play eulora. step 2 - go on steam buy w/e you want"15:26
GaxaroI wonder when steam actually added bitcoin as payment15:28
mircea_popescubout  a month ago.15:28
GaxaroIt's pretty nice they added Skrill too15:28
GaxaroI like Skrill much better then paypal15:29
GaxaroSoon i will have like a game list of 400 games or so by playing Eulora haha.. jks15:29
GaxaroMost rich people on steam has around 600 - 1000 games or even more15:30
GaxaroI have around 177 games but most of them are from many years ago and also give aways and gifts lol15:30
Gaxaroand % off15:30
GaxaroI would have played Eulora today but i just dont have the time because of the cinema which is soon with my child hood friend15:31
Gaxaroand plus coming home late, just wanting to sleep lol15:31
GaxaroAny afk to get ready now lol15:33
mircea_popescuimagine if those rich people had 600-1k girlfriends instead!15:33
Zakorus123ok finally made it work15:41
Zakorus123stupid think wasnt outputting to text like i wanted to15:41
Zakorus123why cant i just copy and paste this password15:45
mircea_popescuyou can't ?!15:45
Zakorus123cant paste it15:45
Zakorus123into the thing15:45
Zakorus123it keeps saying invalid password15:47
Zakorus123i know im typing it in correctly15:49
Zakorus123has it propegated to the servers yet?15:50
Zakorus123the I you gave me is different from the I i have on the keyboard i ahve15:51
Zakorus123which is where15:51
Zakorus123the problem is15:51
Zakorus123i think15:51
Zakorus123ohhhh thats a lowercase L15:51
Zakorus123thats the problem15:51
Zakorus123im in15:52
mircea_popescuby the time the problem is "my i is different from your i", you know you're on to something :)15:54
mircea_popescuaite, make the wiki explanation and come meet me in town ima give you a buncha stuff.16:02
Zakorus123how do i write on the wiki16:04
Zakorus123found it16:07
Zakorus123still writing lol16:24
Zakorus123im not a good writer best i could do16:25
Zakorus123forgot to take images16:25
Zakorus123does it look good?16:29
mircea_popescuyou could link me ?16:34
lobbesbotTitle: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org)16:35
Zakorus123i put it on the front page16:35
Zakorus123feel free to edit as you pelase16:36
Zakorus123cus im a horrible writer16:36
mircea_popescumake it its own page and link it from that [windows] thing. you forgot pictures.16:38
Zakorus123i cant o pcitures16:38
mircea_popescua ok.16:38
Zakorus123how do i make it my own page?16:40
Zakorus123ive never edited a wiki b416:42
mircea_popescui dunno, must be something in there.16:43
Zakorus123im too tired to figure it out. i havent slept yet16:43
Zakorus123to the game!16:44
Zakorus123no clue what to do so ima gonna figure it out16:46
*** Quits: Zakorus123 (47399616@gateway/web/freenode/ip. (Quit: Page closed)16:46
mircea_popescuaaa io q 21917:16
diana_comanoo, nice18:04
danielpbarronlol, sorry I didn't say hi zako18:31
danielpbarronoh huh he said it in the 'gossip' channel (i'm seeing it on my log screen)18:31
mircea_popescuhaha you hacked it all together danielpbarron ?18:34
mircea_popescudiana_coman i plan to put it on sale actually.18:34
danielpbarroni got a screen that just displays tail -f debug.log and tail -f .Eulora/logs/*  all day18:37
*** Quits: Gaxaro (~Blazsword@78-69-34-46-no154.tbcn.telia.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)19:37
Birdmanmircea_popescu you want 360 srs q63?19:45
mircea_popescumake a larger pile wouldja.19:45
Birdmanah, no prob19:46
diana_comanmircea_popescu, you around to get that wpl?19:47
diana_comankk, 2min to finish getting it out19:48
danielpbarronbtw i didn't hoard that last batch; turned most of it into flagons19:48
diana_comananything for sale danielpbarron ?19:49
diana_comanin any case, I meant that: next batch of wpl is for you danielpbarron19:49
mircea_popescuim thinking ima make all of this wine. seeing how i can't make more tuber milk anyway.19:49
danielpbarroni don't think you have any use for flagons or waters19:49
mircea_popescudanielpbarron lol takes a while to digest that thousnads of bps huh19:50
danielpbarronyeah that'll be a while19:50
diana_comanready mircea_popescu19:51
diana_comandanielpbarron, for sentiments though I have , high q ones19:51
danielpbarronhigh q feelings you mean?19:51
diana_comanaccept those and next trade, can't do both in one trade19:52
Birdmanhanbot you said you wanted to work out a deal with these supplications for tokens?19:52
diana_comanno, sentiments19:52
diana_comanI have plenty of feelings, lol19:52
mircea_popescudiana_coman im mixing them anyway19:52
danielpbarronoh you ~want~ the sentiments19:52
diana_comanyes danielpbarron19:52
danielpbarronwhich ones19:52
diana_comank mircea_popescu , let me mix then19:52
mircea_popescuanyone sitting on a large pile of wm low q btw ?19:53
* diana_coman is hiding those wooly things that poke out19:53
diana_comanlemme see if I can offer some wm19:54
diana_comandanielpbarron> which ones <- are there more than one sort of sentiments? o.o19:54
diana_comantinkerer's sentiments, some huge q; I suppose equally huge q shards (lvl 2 lapidary numina ) would be something I could use too19:55
danielpbarronoh right19:55
mircea_popescuoh, anyone selling sr ?19:57
diana_comanmircea_popescu, I can offer 2k wm q1 for 1mn19:57
mircea_popescu500 ea ?! da fuck ?!19:58
diana_comanI'm ok to keep them19:58
diana_comandoesn't make anything for me to sell them at qabv or there19:58
diana_comannot on wm, no19:58
diana_comanI suppose I don't have quite that big pile of them to entertain doing that19:59
diana_comaneven at 1q they make quite good oil with high q bottles and the rest, so ...19:59
mircea_popescufine, 1mn it is o.O19:59
diana_comanlol, ok19:59
diana_comantrade then20:00
diana_comaneat with care20:00
diana_comanwell, we don't have tulips, gotta do shrooms20:01
Birdmanmircea_popescu are you in the market for heaps of low q bps?20:01
Birdmanim not really sure what to do with them20:01
jurovBirdman: what kind of bps? Also, pm20:02
danielpbarroni might also have low q shrooms, and if i do i'd sell them for that much, but i can't check for a while20:04
Birdmangot tons of ltf, flatbread, basketcase headdress, bms, cheap gin, ppb20:05
Birdmancan assume all q45 or under20:05
Birdman reed hauberk and srs bps too20:07
jurov&item srs20:07
euporiumShiny Rock Shards(SRS) cat: Ingredients I base value: 454 http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/Shiny-Rock-Shards.html20:07
jurovwould you sell for 50% base value?20:09
Birdmanq100 bv?20:10
jurovfor q100 i'd buy only ltf,bms,ppb,srs20:10
Birdmanwhat i meant to ask was, why would i sell anything for 50% of its base value when electron buys for 100%, so did you mean 50% of the bps bv @ q100 or 50% over base value20:11
jurovum i forgot about electron :)20:12
diana_comanelectron buys at quality adjusted base value though20:12
jurovand i meant 50% of the bps bv @ q10020:13
Birdmanah, then deal20:13
jurovok. i thought by base value is always meant value at q10020:14
jurovwhat did you mean?20:14
danielpbarronThe required oil for working for the government is base productivity/20. >> Congratulations dpb you worked at Accounting. You earned 0.05 CMC and 0.7 Productivity Points.20:15
Birdmanis that the standard? i thought base value was assumed to be adjusted for q in any situation20:15
danielpbarrongah, got cut off20:15
danielpbarron>> You have less than 200 final productivity so you can only work for the Government. The Government pays a wage of 0.5 cmc and you will be able to get 0.7 productivity bonus after working.20:15
Birdmanok let me see what i have, ltf bms ppb srs20:15
danielpbarronfor all the flack eulora gets on being too difficult and complicated... these other real cash games are way harder i think20:16
danielpbarronso i can make an account without talking to anyone.. meanwhile i have no idea where to begin20:17
danielpbarronand one of the games is by that rpetelia tardstalk guy20:18
danielpbarronand his faq page mentions an irc channel multiple times, on freenode, with nobody in it20:18
mircea_popescudanielpbarron lol i had a wtf moment20:19
diana_coman<jurov> ok. i thought by base value is always meant value at q100 <- technically speaking you are right, but in practice it seems that "base value" is used more loosely and usually instead of quality-adjusted-base-value20:19
mircea_popescucuz people are lazy to say qabv20:19
diana_comanomg danielpbarron that sounds ...horrible20:19
mircea_popescudiana_coman actually sounds like one of those bdsm games. "you gotta go this way. o wait, princess was i nanother castle. ha-ha."20:20
diana_comanthough the fact that you can only possibly work for Government if you have very little productivity is quite correct I suppose, if boring20:20
Birdman2465 bms, 3312 ltf, 1121 ppb, 11112 srs20:20
danielpbarronwork consisted of clicking "work" which is no longer an option, replaced by a picture of a cat and the text "NOPE" in that obama propoganda red/blue style20:21
Birdmanso, (158*2465+407*3312+446*1121+45*11112)*.5 = 1`368`73020:23
mircea_popescudanielpbarron anyway, what i had in mind was more along the lines of, see if the dev team exists / isn't mouthbreathing / maybe we can do something together.20:23
Birdmanjurov ^20:23
diana_comansome work for the Government mircea_popescu ?20:23
jurovBirdman: fine, you in da town?20:24
jurova sec20:24
mircea_popescudiana_coman the ever-optimist in me thinks that all the well-meaning kids getting slaguthered on their own may actually contain some sane kids that could thrive in a sane environment.20:25
mircea_popescui'll have to carefully keep this streak in check lest i end up guillotined by tmsr, i guess.20:26
Birdmanjurov imma leave em in a craft table in town, gotta go brew some coffee quick20:27
mircea_popescubut i suppose the true truth of the matter is, that while a game where "you gotta X" sounds boring, MAKING a game isn't boring, and making the game be "where you gotta X" is a small price to pay for all that unboring - especially as it's not you paying it.20:28
Birdmanthank ya sir20:28
jurovBirdman ty20:28
diana_comanheh, I think I share that optimism, but I guess I tend to apply it to kids that haven't been exposed for that long /got so obviously entrenched into the mess in the first place or at least show some other sign that ..hm, they don't quite fit that well20:30
Birdmandanielpbarron what q threads do you use?21:02
danielpbarron319 at the moment21:02
Birdmandamn, how many cycles did it take to get em that high?21:03
danielpbarronone or two i guess21:04
danielpbarroni already had high quality grass to start with.. so it's hard to say exactly21:04
Birdmanwhat q are you getting with them?21:38
danielpbarron720 basics21:41
jurovwhat cycles are you speaking about?21:45
hanbotBirdman> hanbot you said you wanted to work out a deal with these supplications for tokens? << ayup. how many/which types do you have?21:49
diana_comanjurov, I suspect they mean cycle as use high q thread to get (only smalls) high q grass -> make into higher q threads; repeat21:50
Birdmanhanbot 12 sups of thorns, 13 stones, 14 snails, 4 leather, 29 berry22:06
danielpbarroni'll give ya 500k for the lot22:11
Birdmani dont think thats gonna happen22:15
Birdmani need tokens22:16
danielpbarronthe high markup on tokens isn't from lack of supplications22:16
Birdmanwell before getting into that even, their base value is 433k22:19
danielpbarronwhat's the quality?22:20
Birdmanso 500k isnt remotely near what i'd want22:20
Birdmanmost are 158, some are 16622:20
Birdmanso i want something like 20 tokens, or 2 mil for all of em22:21
danielpbarronok i'll offer 550k22:21
Birdmanany thoughts here hanbot? what sort of deal were you looking to make22:21
Birdmanin any case i would like to buy some tokens for 100k22:21
Birdmanif you want supplications you can buy screens, buy clogs, buy considerations, buy bods and tomes, get a token, all of which is 240% minimum22:23
Birdmanand not to mention numina22:23
hanbotBirdman i'll trade 20 tokens for em (will be a coupla days tho, 5 in stock atm)22:23
Birdmandeal, you in town?22:23
hanbotomw, ~3 mins22:24
Birdmanan you care if i mix em?22:24
hanbotthe stones and snails i care, otherwise no22:25
Birdmanheh, thought i had ~ 50 of em not 7022:26
Birdmandamn simple maths22:26
hanbot9 berry works22:27
Birdmanjust 9 instead of 2922:28
hanbotif you only wanted to trade 50 supps, yeah.22:28
Birdmansweet, thanks22:28
hanbotnp. ready when you are.22:28
Birdmanthey're in the table, trade now22:29
hanbotgot em. ty, will ping you for rest of the tokens.22:31
Birdmancmooon cs bp pop22:43
danielpbarronwhy is it that i get close to the same amount of experience from a sacrifice worth millions and a sacrifice worth 100k ?23:38
Birdmani've always thought output value has a factor in exp gained23:39

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